Remodeling

[Fluffy]

Okay, breeding is a bit of a problem for me. Sure, I like to do it and all, but the only thing with it is that there's simply too many for one person to do. Or at least, for me. They really cut into the time I should be spending on working on other parts of the site. I have one idea in mind, but I want to see what you all think of it.

• Limited breedings
About 5-10 breedings would be allowed per month. Those who wish to breed must sign up for a spot. After the spots are filled, no more may start a breeding after that. A user may sign up for one spot, and have one or two breedings for that month.
Pros:
I would know how many breedings I would need to do.
Less time to get pups out.
More organized.
Cons:
Lesser of a chance to breed
Threads may not be completed by the end of the month
Less offspring

All together, I like it. It helps keep down over population. But it may seem unfair to users who aren't on that often, but want to have a free breeding.. But if threads aren't completed, then what? No pups simply because they couldn't finish in time? Or should they be allowed to breed on that one thread, but start no others.

• Keep what we have
Well, just a free for all breeding. No exact system, and users can freely make a breeding at any time
Pros:
More offspring
One can choose when to breed
Can take how ever long you want
Cons:
-too- many breedings?
Many incomplete breedings
Slower processing time of pups
Kills Fluffy

Well, it's been what Volpes had for ever, but it's not the most organized of systems. It takes up quite some time to finish all the month's breedings, and even then, there's still more to do.

• Other?
You tell me!

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Now, no matter which it comes to be, breedings will always have the same system; Pups will be birthed on the 15th of the month after a breeding is finished, and grow at the end of that month.

Lab breedings will also take up the same schedule, released on the 15th and grown on the end of the month.

It's very likely I'll add 'Finish current breeding before starting a new one' to out current system, if it is top vote.[/center]

[Wolf]

Hmm... I'm going to have to say other, just because... Well, I love the pups, I think we all do. The breeding garden is where the majority of posts are. If you limit it, then the people who don't get in have nothing to do for a full month. As well, if it's a first come first serve basis, this may not be fair to all members, as, if we don't have them already, we're bound to get members with different timezones at some point in time.

My thoughts...

Instead of limiting the breeding as a whole, have each member only allowed to do a certain amount of breeding a month. Like, three pairs of volpes a month, or two for each member, or whatever you think you can handle.

Have less pups born from each litter. Instead of four being the maximum, make it three, or two with a pair very rarely producing three. Instead of just the glowing markings causing a smaller litter, make it all volpes with mutations having a smaller chance of having more pups, or every month a random type of volpe having small litters.

Get help with making pups. We all know you have a life outside of volpes Fluffy, so maybe a bit of help on the pups wouldn't be too bad. Allow another user to do some of your breedings for you instead you having to think up and make each and every pup.

To limit having to make new lineart for crossbreeds, perhaps have that if the crossbreed has been produced before, it takes fewer posts, or if the crossbreed hasn't been, then it takes more. Either method would work.

Do the litters as they come up. Instead of trying to make all the pups for that month in one or two days, do them as the breedings are finished. They're usually spread out enough that it shouldn't be too hard to make the pups for them. Just every time you come on, check to see if a thread has finished. Trust me, it's easier to do a lot of work over a long period of time then having to do it all at once.

Make the amount of posting to get pups higher. If you made it 30 instead of 25 for instence, it would take people that much longer to finish and not as many litters could be bred.

Make the lab breedings more expensive. The more expensive they are, the less people can buy them and the less pups will be born.

Take the lab breedings away completly. This would greatly limit your workload. If you only had to do breedings where there was roleplaying beforehand, you wouldn't have to make as many pups.

These are just some ideas to help you out ^.^ I'll post more when I can think of them. You could use a combination of them, only one, or all. I think they would help to reduce the workload of pups for you to make ^.^

[Fluffy]

Those are some good suggestions, Wolf, but as with any, there are pros and cons. My main concern is to not only lessen my workload, but to also make it so breeding isn't the main source of income. Having breeding a bit more limited would make it so that regular ol' RPs would be the income source, which is sorta my internal aim -nod- Keeping the system fair, too, is also kept in mind.

That first one is one I was thinking of, perhaps 2 breedings per month per player. I think it'll be used as an 'add-on' to whatever the system is decided on.

Less pups isn't too much favored, as if you do good hard writing, but get only few pups, well, it's not very much good of a deal. But anyway, pup numbers vary with seasons, so it wouldn't be as good to have in fall, where pup numbers are small.

Help with pups is defenintely what I'll be doing, since the site is growing a bit more as the weeks pass. I think I'll even have 'breeder' applications set up once the new system is decided o.o

Cross breeding one is another for the 'keeping it fair'. What if you were the one to have the first dragon x gryphon, yet when others do it, they have much an easier time? It's a good thought, but not too even for all.

Pups as I go. That one I may do too. I think I'll have a Sign up and Finished station in the breedings area so I know when someone's finished a pair, without having to sort through my PMs o.o;

Hmm, this one I'm not too sure on, as when will a number be too high? If it's not minded much, then it may be put into action, but I do want for breedings to be finished, rather then simply started and left there

Lab breeding prices will change up a bit, as will it be reorganized with the new system :3 Taking them away, though, isn't too favored, for those who have writers block, or would want to spend their Qil/Coins on -something-

[Uso]

I honestly don't think I can reply to this, as I'm the main problem in the way of breedings. XD

Most other people don't tend to go as wild as I do, so instead of changing systems, I'd do as I offered before; only breed every other month. Since then, on the months I'm not breeding, I could easily help you with it if you get tied up (probably only needed during the school yeah, but it'd be better XD)
I'm still willing to do that, since I really don't need to breed as much as I do. Plus, then I'd be more willing to buy Volpes from others and get the money tree ashakin'. x3


I posted for "other" though, for this reason...
I do agree that you should do offspring as you get PMs or posts (depending on if you change that) when a breeding is complete. And do the adult versions along with the offspring. XP

[kabuto_rocks]

I agree with wolf's 'Limited breeding per person' idea. I also think the 'every other month' idea is good, because then people have time to start normal roleplaying and training etc. Also you have time to make pups.

Apart from that I don't have much to add really...

[~*Ryuu Squall*~]

I dont like every other months or increasing how many posts it takes. You have to post loads as it is!
I do like limtaitions per person though. I think it should be about four and that you should ba able to sell these places if you know your not going to use them all. It would be a way of making money and it seems fairer then not allowing people to sell them, cos if someone has 5 breedings they really want to do and somone else only has two, then it would be really nice to let that place shift to someone else.
I also think the amount of ones being done at a time should be monitered. I understand if your RPing a breed with two other people cos neoither of them post much, but starting up 5 or so personal ones at once then working through them? Thats just confusing!

[Uso]

Um. The "every other month" idea was only directed at myself. XD I'm the one that has the most breedings. I don't know if I worded it poorly or what, but it wasn't to be directed at anyone else. Plus, then if I'm not doing any breedings and there's a large work load on Fluffy one month, I can help her with the offspring. >.<'

[~*Ryuu Squall*~]

We should really have a compaition that gives people a chance to show off how artsistic they are.
It would be cool if two randomn volpes where picked and people have to predict what the pups might look like. This could help Fluffy find somone whos imaginitiveand artsit enough to help with pups and it wouidl also make people more active cos they want to joinin.
What do you think?

[Uso]

Staff isn't based around a competition. 'Nuff said. o.O

[Fluffy]

Okay, I've come to a bit of a verdict for the breeding system. It'll be changed up by quite some much o.o; But it's what I think will solve the problems.
Problems?
• Too many pups
• Income shouldn't be from breeding only
• Keeping it fair
• Killing Fluffy

Solution:

Breedings will now have a Sign-up system. You simply sign up the pair you wish to breed, and go off to breed them. When you're finished, you'll post in a Finished thread for your breeding to be processed (rather then PMing Fluffy). For those who have a 'paired' breeding, the 'leader' will post the sign-up, start the thread, and post the finished.

Limitations:
• You will be allowed only 2 breedings a month. I find that to be plenty.
• You will have to complete your current breeding before starting another. Also, breedings that are not completed within a 2 month period will be send to the old threads board. For a small fee (likely of about 25 Qil) you may revive your breeding and finish it (again, given 2 months to do so). For those who are in 'Paired' breedings, a pair breeding counts for the both of you as 1 breeding.

What's staying the same:
• Breedings will still have the same schedule, any breeding finished on month 1 will have their pups on the 15th of month 2. Those pups will then grow at the end of month 2.
• You can breed whenever you wish, so long you don't have a breeding already in progress or already have two breedings finished for the month. (Lab breedings do not apply to this count)

Changes for Fluffy:
• Pups will be made as breedings are finished, along with their adult form.
• There will be one or two 'Breeders' that will be seen as Staff and will help process breedings.

Things to think over:
• Perhaps pup number should be based on how well played out a breeding thread is? Or rather, those who work harder for their pups can get 'extras'. I'm thinking, if you make 15 more posts after what is needed, then you may have an extra pup. This will most likely work for only one extra pup.
• Changes in the weather? I don't like to control the weather in an RP, but I'm thinking more of a 'Natural disaster' that just won't allow for breedings for a Month in a season. Just to give me some time to work on stuff I perhaps haven't gotten to? A blizzard in winter, drought in summer. Floods in Spring, and... Mudslide in Fall? Not sure, so it's in the thinkings.

Other?:
• There will soon be a 'Breeder's Shop'. It'll likely have in stock things like: and item increases the likely chances of having an extra pup, an item that makes a litter all males or all females. Maybe also a 'Pass' of a sort that'll allow you to have an extra breeding after you've completed 2 already that month (will likely be valid for 3 months or so) . And... Well, that's all I've come up with so far. Suggestions for the shop can be made via PM :3

Any questions/comments/concerns? o.o Any in favor of this or would like to see some features tweaked? Speak up!

[~*Ryuu Squall*~]

I love all but the ones in the thiongs to think over.
I wasnt talking about being made a staffy Uso, just finding people to helpo fluffy